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The problems were rather coming from the lack of integration with standard versioning systems and the monolithic nature of the Smalltalk image concept. Later on when ruby started to become popular, which in my opinion was very similar to Smalltalk, but had a module concept and not a monolithic image concept.

Several years ago, I had lunch with a former Smalltalk dev who gave me his perspective on what happened. This caused several major Smalltalk providers to believe they had to unite in order to compete. Internal conflict within the Smalltalk providers eroded development and when IBM changed to push Java "which falsely claimed to do what Smalltalk already did, like be able to run on a toaster" is the quote I roughly remember , this led to the collapse, when others followed IBM's lead.

Seeing how smaller companies like to follow FAANG's technology choices today, combined with the profession following free-as-in-beer options, this also seems like an alternative plausible explanation.

Apocryphon 6 days ago prev next [—]. Should discussions about the history of Smalltalk mention Objective-C? Was it the most successful Smalltalk-inspired language after Java? I think so, yes. My impression is that Smalltalk fans lament the loss of the tooling around the language more than the language itself, so they're not as likely to focus on Objective-C's success -- but I suspect there's a case to be made that the underlying object and message-passing concepts Obj-C borrowed from Smalltalk enabled a lot of NextStep's rapid interface builder technology to be as good as it was in the s, and that technology kept them alive long enough to be bought by Apple, rejuvenated the Mac, and laid the foundation for iOS.

Either Objective C or Ruby, yes imo. One could also make an argument for javascript being a Smalltalk-derived or inspired language. I'd argue Javascript is based on Self, but Self was very much inspired by Smalltalk, so my argument is really a small nit.

Isn't Javascript awfully close to Scheme in subset but with C-ish algol-ish, java-ish syntax? Not really? What is gets from scheme is closures with lexical scoping real closures. Java was the succesor of Smalltalk as deemed by Big Blue. Basically the same that was reborn as SWT on Eclipse. Visual Age for Java was a Smalltalk application. Its incredible to me that the guys who lament the fall of Smalltalk always blame Java.

Second, the guys at ParcPlace simply didn't understand how quickly the pentium PC would decimate the workstation market of Sun etc in financial institutions and how good VB got in a very short space of time. Yet here we are with another article blaming Java. An easy and lazy target to cover up for that elitism that pervaded the Smalltalk community back then and still does today. Many such cases. Captive corporate userbases could be shepherded through the steps.

PaulHoule 6 days ago parent prev next [—]. Object-orientation became mainstream in many ways. Smalltalk won the battle for ideas even though the exact syntax and runtime didn't win. But it was a bad idea. Elements of it left now, but the very bad bits like derivation hiding implementation Dog knkows where have thankfully gone extinct reply.

PaulHoule 6 days ago root parent next [—]. It's reached the "Plateau of Productivity" Ideas from functional programming languages are now becoming mainstream. I like it how pattern matching turned up in both Java and Python at the same time. If people quit hating on Java for a moment they'd see it was getting "ML the good parts. It was certainly Java, as many early adopters were former Smalltalk vendors, e. From my seat at ParcPlace , I'd offer the synthesis: ParcPlace's legacy-enterprise-apps-focus prevented it from properly chasing the pure-internet opportunity that Java pursued.

It's nearly impossible. IBM's VisualAge offering had a similar high-end focus. But those actions might not have earned the then-extant relevant actors enough, soon enough, for them to have thrived or even survived. Thats not my recollection of the era. VB was was widely scorned but it was incredibly productive. At my workplace at the time, when smalltalk collapsed as a viable dev environment, it was largely replaced with VB pointing at the sybase databases we had.

The smalltalkers scoffed, but the speed the VB guys got things done killed everything else. Its easy to forget what a monster VB was. Java took forever to mature in comparison. That websphere nonsense was a huge distraction for people who just wanted a crud app. I don't think it's the consultancy that's under question -- it's the question of what RAD tools that companies that weren't necessarily "software first" reached for when they were working on stuff in-house.

Banks, manufacturing companies, telephone companies, places that decided to roll their own rather than call up IBM or Accenture well, whatever Accenture's predecessor was. I worked at a place like that in the s, a successful CLEC with a huge IT department that wrote their own custom software for order tracking and sales management -- and they wrote it in Visual Basic and Access.

My perspective is from the Banks, manufacturing companies, telephone companies, places that decided to call up IBM or Accenture they already existed in 's. My recollection matches yours. Your counterargument applies to your work place only though, do you know of other companies that did the same? I can't speak to smalltalk, but I can for Java vs. VB was big in Microsoft shops. Java wasn't anywhere close to as easy or viable for desktop CRUD apps then could be argued if ever.

Access with integrated VBA for what code is needed, and the whole market of similar desktop databases Access ended up dominating and eating, like FoxPro, Paradox, etc. Great point. In my mind I often lump VB pre. And a lot of the time you could just as well embed pieces in other languages in your Access application connected to MSSQL or oracle or whatever reply.

This certainly doesn't prove your case. Alternate quite plausible explanation: Vendors of Smalltalk started realizing that Smalltalk just wasn't it, for whatever reason the comment you're replying to posits that it was VB's existence vs. When they realized this, they started looking to pivot to something else. VB was microsoft-owned and writing an entirely new VB-esque environment seemed like a daunting exercise, and didn't mesh with the strengths of the company given that they went all-in on smalltalk, it's a self-selecting argument.

It's not weird nor indicative of much that java was good enough that they all ended up there. It was simply the easiest thing to switch to once a vendor decides to ditch smalltalk. I guess if java didn't exist, it is theoretically possible that e. More likely IBM and co would continue to believe smalltalk was a dead end and instead they'd all have gone with python or objC or some such, or a bunch of them would work together to make a java-like language of their own, or one of them would have and the rest would join in a few years later, or they'd all start publishing competing languages.

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